#420 – Annie Jacobsen: Nuclear War, CIA, KGB, Aliens, Area 51, Roswell & Secrecy
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<p>Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of “Nuclear War: A Scenario” and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br /> – <b>HiddenLayer</b>: <a href="https://hiddenlayer.com/lex">https://hiddenlayer.com/lex</a><br /> – <b>BetterHelp</b>: <a href="https://betterhelp.com/lex">https://betterhelp.com/lex</a> to get 10% off<br /> – <b>Policygenius</b>: <a href="https://policygenius.com/lex">https://policygenius.com/lex</a><br /> – <b>NetSuite</b>: <a href="http://netsuite.com/lex">http://netsuite.com/lex</a> to get free product tour</p> <p>Transcript: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript">https://lexfridman.com/annie-jacobsen-transcript</a></p> <p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br /> Nuclear War: A Scenario (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3THZHfr">https://amzn.to/3THZHfr</a><br /> Annie’s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen">https://twitter.com/anniejacobsen</a><br /> Annie’s Website: <a href="https://anniejacobsen.com/">https://anniejacobsen.com/</a><br /> Annie’s Books: <a href="https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ">https://amzn.to/3TGWyMJ</a><br /> Annie’s Books (audio): <a href="https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c">https://adbl.co/49ZnI7c</a></p> <p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br /> Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br /> Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br /> Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br /> RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br /> YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a><br /> YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a></p> <p><b>SUPPORT & CONNECT:</b><br /> – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast<br /> – Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a><br /> – Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a><br /> – Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a><br /> – LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a><br /> – Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a><br /> – Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a></p> <p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br /> Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br /> (00:00) – Introduction<br /> (07:37) – Nuclear war<br /> (12:21) – Launch procedure<br /> (18:00) – Deterrence<br /> (21:34) – Tactical nukes<br /> (30:59) – Nuclear submarines<br /> (33:59) – Nuclear missiles<br /> (41:10) – Nuclear football<br /> (50:17) – Missile interceptor system<br /> (54:34) – North Korea<br /> (1:01:10) – Nuclear war scenarios<br /> (1:10:02) – Warmongers<br /> (1:14:31) – President’s cognitive ability<br /> (1:20:43) – Refusing orders<br /> (1:28:41) – Russia and Putin<br /> (1:33:48) – Cyberattack<br /> (1:35:09) – Ground zero of nuclear war<br /> (1:39:48) – Surviving nuclear war<br /> (1:44:06) – Nuclear winter<br /> (1:54:29) – Alien civilizations<br /> (2:00:04) – Extrasensory perception<br /> (2:13:50) – Area 51<br /> (2:17:48) – UFOs and aliens<br /> (2:28:15) – Roswell incident<br /> (2:34:55) – CIA assassinations<br /> (2:53:47) – Navalny<br /> (2:56:12) – KGB<br /> (3:02:48) – Hitler and the atomic bomb<br /> (3:06:52) – War and human nature<br /> (3:10:17) – Hope</p>
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