#419 – Sam Altman: OpenAI, GPT-5, Sora, Board Saga, Elon Musk, Ilya, Power & AGI

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<p>Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, Sora, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br /> &#8211; <b>Cloaked</b>: <a href="https://cloaked.com/lex">https://cloaked.com/lex</a> and use code LexPod to get 25% off<br /> &#8211; <b>Shopify</b>: <a href="https://shopify.com/lex">https://shopify.com/lex</a> to get $1 per month trial<br /> &#8211; <b>BetterHelp</b>: <a href="https://betterhelp.com/lex">https://betterhelp.com/lex</a> to get 10% off<br /> &#8211; <b>ExpressVPN</b>: <a href="https://expressvpn.com/lexpod">https://expressvpn.com/lexpod</a> to get 3 months free</p> <p>Transcript: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript">https://lexfridman.com/sam-altman-2-transcript</a></p> <p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br /> Sam&#8217;s X: <a href="https://x.com/sama">https://x.com/sama</a><br /> Sam&#8217;s Blog: <a href="https://blog.samaltman.com/">https://blog.samaltman.com/</a><br /> OpenAI&#8217;s X: <a href="https://x.com/OpenAI">https://x.com/OpenAI</a><br /> OpenAI&#8217;s Website: <a href="https://openai.com">https://openai.com</a><br /> ChatGPT Website: <a href="https://chat.openai.com/">https://chat.openai.com/</a><br /> Sora Website: <a href="https://openai.com/sora">https://openai.com/sora</a><br /> GPT-4 Website: <a href="https://openai.com/research/gpt-4">https://openai.com/research/gpt-4</a></p> <p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br /> Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br /> Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br /> Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br /> RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br /> YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a><br /> YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a></p> <p><b>SUPPORT &#38; CONNECT:</b><br /> &#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br /> &#8211; Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a></p> <p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br /> Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br /> (00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br /> (07:51) &#8211; OpenAI board saga<br /> (25:17) &#8211; Ilya Sutskever<br /> (31:26) &#8211; Elon Musk lawsuit<br /> (41:18) &#8211; Sora<br /> (51:09) &#8211; GPT-4<br /> (1:02:18) &#8211; Memory &#38; privacy<br /> (1:09:22) &#8211; Q*<br /> (1:12:58) &#8211; GPT-5<br /> (1:16:13) &#8211; $7 trillion of compute<br /> (1:24:22) &#8211; Google and Gemini<br /> (1:35:26) &#8211; Leap to GPT-5<br /> (1:39:10) &#8211; AGI<br /> (1:57:44) &#8211; Aliens</p>