Outsmart a Narcissist: A Proven 4-Step Plan to Take Your Power Back
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<p>Is it possible to be around narcissistic people and not lose your power? Especially when it's your mom, dad, ex, or boss who’s acting toxic?</p><p>Today, Mel is joined by Rebecca Zung, an expert on narcissism and a globally recognized high-conflict negotiator. Rebecca is also a top-ranked trial lawyer who has studied narcissism so that she could win against them in the courtroom. She’s written the playbook, <i>SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with A Narcissist and Win. </i></p><p>She is here to make the case that you CAN stay in power no matter how toxic the people are around you. And by following her 4-part plan, you can even win when dealing with narcissism.</p><p> </p><p>In this conversation, Rebecca discusses topics like:</p><p>Narcissism: what is it?</p><p>The 3 types of narcissism.</p><p>What a covert passive-aggressive narcissist is.</p><p>What a malignant narcissist is.</p><p>What a grandiose narcissist is.</p><p>The link between narcissism and divorce.</p><p>The exact phrases that can change the dynamic between you and a narcissist.</p><p>The top 3 sentences to disarm a narcissist without causing rage.</p><p>Why “cutting off” a narcissist won’t work.</p><p>The physical symptoms you can have when dealing with a narcissist.</p><p>Why being “the victim” is keeping you trapped.</p><p>What narcissistic supply is and why it is so important.</p><p>The 2 ways a narcissist gets their “narcissistic supply".</p><p>What happens in a narcissistic brain in childhood that flips a switch.</p><p>The tie between trauma and narcissism.</p><p>What the 4 non-verbal triggers for any narcissist are.</p><p>Why a narcissist is just an 8-year-old throwing a tantrum.</p><p>The reason why a narcissist actually fears you.</p><p>The definition of love bombing and why it’s so addictive.</p><p>What the 3 phases of a narcissistic relationship are.</p><p>How you can be physiologically addicted to a ‘love bomber’ (it’s as addictive as cocaine).</p><p>What narcissistic rage is and why it happens.</p><p>What your 3 options are in a relationship with a narcissist.</p><p>What happens when you become the focus of narcissistic rage.</p><p>What those passive-aggressive or back-handed comments mean to a narcissist.</p><p>What triangulation is, and how to protect yourself.</p><p>The biggest myth about narcissists.</p><p>The real reason why narcissists string you along.</p><p>The 4-step process to getting your power back from a narcissist.</p><p>The $2M apology.</p><p>What to do when a narcissist is raging at you.</p><p>When it's okay to tell a narcissist what they need to hear.</p><p>The 3 things to stop doing now in a narcissistic relationship.</p><p>How to respond to an accusatory email at work.</p><p>What you need to know about negotiating with a narcissist.</p><p>Why saying “I’m anticipating…” disarms any narcissist.</p><p>The first boundary you need to create with a narcissist.</p><p>What to look for as signs that you are dating, engaged to, or married to a narcissist.</p><p> </p><p>You can purchase Rebecca’s book, ‘SLAY the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win’, here: <a href="https://a.co/d/bLWp5YZ" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/bLWp5YZ</a></p><p> </p><p>Follow Rebecca Zung:</p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://instagram.com/rebeccazung" target="_blank">instagram.com/rebeccazung</a></p><p>Webpage: <a href="https://www.rebeccazung.com/" target="_blank">rebeccazung.com</a></p><p>Watch the episodes on YouTube: <a href="https://bit.ly/45OWCNr" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/45OWCNr</a></p><p>Check out my book,<i> The High 5 Habit</i>: <a href="https://a.co/d/g1DQ8Pt" target="_blank">https://a.co/d/g1DQ8Pt</a></p><p>Follow me:</p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://bit.ly/3QfG8bb" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/3QfG8bb</a></p><p>The Mel Robbins Podcast Instagram: <a href="https://bit.ly/49bg4GP" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/49bg4GP</a></p><p>LinkedIn: <a href="https://bit.ly/46Mh0QB" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/46Mh0QB</a></p><p>TikTok: <a href="https://bit.ly/46Kpw2v" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/46Kpw2v</a></p><p>Sign up for my newsletter: <a href="https://bit.ly/46PVnPs" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/46PVnPs </a></p><p>Want more resources? Go to my podcast page at <a href="https://melrobbins.com/podcast" target="_blank">melrobbins.com/podcast</a>.</p><p><a href="https://www.melrobbins.com/disclaimer" target="_blank">Disclaimer</a></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>
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