About this episode
<p>As an author, journalist and broadcaster, Dr Julia Baird has spent the last decade researching awe, wonder, grace and forgiveness (...and now the title makes sense!).</p> <p>Finding joy and purpose through ocean swimming, Julia shows us how impactful nature and community can be when we say yes to adventure (and also what to do when caught in a rip).</p> <p>With Josh out sick, Ryan and Hugh do the heavy lifting with bountiful good questions, Ryan becomes enlightened and discovers the meaning behind church (no really, he’s onto something), and Hugh and Ryan get deep with Julia and discuss the role of justice in forgiveness and the place of grace in today’s society.</p> <p>Julia, it was such an honour, and definitely a name ticked off our dream-guest bucket list.</p> <p>To watch the full episode on YouTube click here - <a href="https://youtu.be/3Xjy4eABOQ4">https://youtu.be/3Xjy4eABOQ4</a></p> <p>🎧Things to listen to:</p> <ul> <li>Not Stupid podcast with Julia Baird and Jeremy Fernandez - <a href="https://apple.co/4h3mhIS">https://apple.co/4h3mhIS</a></li> <li>Grace Tame - “Sexy-time, Scissoring, Autism” - <a href="https://apple.co/404jXv7">https://apple.co/404jXv7</a></li> <li>All that really matters - Teddy Swims - <a href="https://bit.ly/3NmAt26">https://bit.ly/3NmAt26</a></li> <li>Renegades: Born in the USA with Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen - <a href="https://apple.co/3BJbhQW">https://apple.co/3BJbhQW</a></li> </ul> <p>📖 Things to read</p> <ul> <li>Julia Baird’s ‘Staying Upright’ ABC column - <a href="https://ab.co/4f31HGN">https://ab.co/4f31HGN</a></li> <li>Phosphorescence by Julia Baird - <a href="https://bit.ly/3Y2MK0M">https://bit.ly/3Y2MK0M</a></li> <li>Bright Shining by Julia Baird - <a href="https://bit.ly/4eNfaCX">https://bit.ly/4eNfaCX</a></li> <li>Silent Spring by Rachel Carlson - <a href="https://bit.ly/3NpOhcf">https://bit.ly/3NpOhcf</a></li> <li>The Sense of Wonder by Rachel Carlson - <a href="https://bit.ly/3A5UPcP">https://bit.ly/3A5UPcP</a></li> <li>The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey - <a href="https://amzn.to/3A1w3L1">https://amzn.to/3A1w3L1</a></li> <li>AWE by Dacher Keltner - <a href="https://amzn.to/3BGEk7E">https://amzn.to/3BGEk7E</a></li> <li>The Courage To Be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi and Fumitake Koga</li> </ul> <p>📺 Things to watch</p> <ul> <li>Barack Obama singing Amazing Grace - <a href="https://bit.ly/3BG1WsV">https://bit.ly/3BG1WsV</a></li> <li>The Pool documentary - <a href="https://thepoolfilm.au/"></a><a href="https://thepoolfilm.au">https://thepoolfilm.au</a></li> </ul> <p>🌊 Information about Ocean Swimming Groups</p> <ul> <li>Phosphorescence Swimming Group (Melbourne) - <a href="https://bit.ly/488EWPp">https://bit.ly/488EWPp</a></li> <li>Margaret River Swimming Group - <a href="https://ab.co/4dKT02P">https://ab.co/4dKT02P</a></li> </ul><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
Listen to this episode in English to learn English
Podcast episodes are one of the highest-density ways to absorb English at native pace. Dr Julia Baird - An Awe-full Conversation from The Imperfects gives you natural dialogue, unscripted speech, and vocabulary that actually appears in real conversations.
In the Clue app, every word in the transcript is tappable. Tap an unknown word, see the translation in your language instantly, and keep listening without breaking flow.
Episodes to Learn English
- Dr Emily - You're Full of Grit Jun 14, 2026
- Ellyse Perry - It Starts With Trying Jun 7, 2026
- We're Doing a One-Off Live Show! Jun 2, 2026
- Ryan Holiday - A Stoic Life & Death May 31, 2026
- Joel Pearson - I Think, Therefore AI May 24, 2026
- Dr Emily - What To Do With Envy May 17, 2026
- Reuben Williams - What Happened After My Sexual Assault May 10, 2026
- Jan Fran - Wars For Your Attention May 3, 2026
- Dr Edna Lekgabe - New Baby… New Brain… Matrescence. Apr 26, 2026
- Shane Jacobson - Permission To Laugh Apr 19, 2026
- Esther Perel - It’s Not Them, It’s You Apr 12, 2026
- Dr Emily - Overcome With Overwhelm? Apr 5, 2026
- Hamish Macdonald - After The Facts Mar 29, 2026
- Bri Lee - Babies+Climate=Anxiety Mar 22, 2026
- Ben Crowe - Play School Mar 15, 2026
- Matt Preston - Only 14 Summers Left Mar 8, 2026
- Dr Emily - Acceptance, That's Radical Mar 1, 2026
- Maggie Dent - ‘Good Enough’ Parenting is Good Enough Feb 22, 2026
- Bron Lewis - Is It Me or Postnatal Anxiety? Feb 15, 2026
- Dr Lucy Hone - A Life Worth Grieving Feb 8, 2026
- Claudia Karvan - Love, Her Way Feb 1, 2026
- Soul Searching Summer - Ryan’s TV Show Jan 25, 2026
- Spooky Summer - Hugh’s Haunted House Jan 18, 2026
- Psychology Summer - Your Inner Fan with Dr Emily Jan 11, 2026
- The Little Drummer Girl - A Christmas Scandal Dec 21, 2025
- Dave Hughes - Me, Myself & Ego Dec 14, 2025
- Mary Fowler - Forgiving Yourself-Harm Dec 7, 2025
- Dr Emily - You Had Me At Communication Nov 30, 2025
- Jamila Rizvi - Awoken by a Broken Brain Nov 23, 2025
- Troy Kinne - It’s What’s Inside That’s Backwards Nov 16, 2025