About this episode
<p>At just 16, Ellyse Perry was the youngest person to ever debut for the Australian International Cricket team. 13 days later, Ellyse debuted for the Matildas.</p> <p>💌Join 7,800+ people getting our takeaways and favourite moments from this episode in our weekly newsletter - <a href="http://bit.ly/45NyQDy">http://bit.ly/45NyQDy</a></p> <p>Arguably one of the greatest athletes of our time, Hugh, Ryan and Josh chat to Ellyse about how she stays so grounded amidst her incredible success, and whether she is able to separate who she is from what she does.</p> <p>Ellyse chats to the guys about her relationship with her dad (Josh and Hugh furiously take notes), and how both her parents were able to instil a love of trying rather than winning.</p> <p>And then we get onto social anxiety; what it feels like for Ellyse, why she loves silent retreats, and how she manages it in front of her fans.</p> <p>Ellyse, you are a literal ray of sunshine. Please come back anytime.</p> <p>If you’d like to watch this full episode on YouTube, follow this link - <a href="https://youtu.be/xAZeLzcG43Y">https://youtu.be/xAZeLzcG43Y</a> </p> <p>0:00 – Is THAT AI?<br>5:05 – Running (and bowling) it’s natural course<br>11:24 – The feeling of not trying<br>17:18 – Parents: Be A Good Sport<br>29:22 – Prepare to be disappointed<br>40:23 – Bitter sweet World Cup<br>46:48 – The complexity of ego<br>1:03:54 – Practicing presence<br>1:10:30 – Hugh’s advice for big moments</p> <p>🫖Imperfects episodes mentioned on this episode</p> <ul> <li>Pat Cummins - Love, Loss & Life - (1:14:20) - <a href="https://bit.ly/3PRku11">https://bit.ly/3PRku11</a></li> <li>WHO ARE YOU? with Dr Emily (+ secret code word) - (17:20) - <a href="https://bit.ly/4e1SxeV">https://bit.ly/4e1SxeV</a></li> </ul> <p>📖 Things to read</p> <ul> <li>Perspective by Ellyse Perry - (29:22) - <a href="https://bit.ly/3PSMaCI">https://bit.ly/3PSMaCI</a></li> <li>Ellyse Perry’s children’s books - <a href="https://bit.ly/4e1TyDM">https://bit.ly/4e1TyDM</a></li> <li>Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman - (1:11:40) - <a href="https://bit.ly/437yxT9">https://bit.ly/437yxT9</a></li> </ul> <p>📺Things to watch</p> <ul> <li>Carl Sagan’s Pale Blue Dot - (1:17:27) - <a href="https://bit.ly/3PSPKNa">https://bit.ly/3PSPKNa</a></li> </ul> <p>🏆Competitions to enter</p> <ul> <li>Imperfects LIVE at the Balwyn Cinema Gold Class Double Pass - <a href="https://bit.ly/3S0E0Zr">https://bit.ly/3S0E0Zr</a></li> </ul> <p>🎟️Things to buy tickets to</p> <ul> <li>Imperfects LIVE at the Balwyn Cinema - <a href="https://bit.ly/4vq9JSr">https://bit.ly/4vq9JSr</a></li> </ul> <p>🩷To host your own Vulnerabilitea House, purchase here - <a href="http://bit.ly/4lyuuWz">http://bit.ly/4lyuuWz</a></p> <p>🩵To purchase our journal (or your novel) <em>My Imperfect Life,</em> click here - <a href="http://bit.ly/4lyuuWz"></a><a href="http://bit.ly/4lyuuW">http://bit.ly/4lyuuW</a></p> <p>🩵To join our subscriber community, <em>A Little More Imperfects,</em> follow this link - <a href="http://bit.ly/4mqunxu">http://bit.ly/4mqunxu</a></p> <p>🩷 AND you can subscribe to <em>A Little More Imperfects</em> through Apple Podcasts too, here - <a href="http://apple.co/theimperfects">http://apple.co/theimperfects</a></p> <p>The Imperfects is not a licensed mental health service and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice, treatment or assessment. The advice given in this episode is general in nature, but if you’re struggling, please see a healthcare professional, or call lifeline on 13 11 14.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
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