How AI Will Rewire Consumer Internet | Deep Dives with a16z
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Anish Acharya sits down with Josh Elman to discuss the future of consumer technology and Josh's decision to join a16z. Over the past two decades, Elman has helped shape some of the most important consumer technology products and companies, including LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, Robinhood, Discord, Musical.ly, TikTok, and Apple. Drawing on those experiences, he reflects on how technology has evolved from a niche industry into a central force in everyday life. The conversation explores consumer AI, product design, distribution, social networks, creator ecosystems, and the changing relationship between technology and human behavior. They discuss why AI may unlock an entirely new generation of consumer products, how discovery and distribution are changing, and what founders can learn from previous platform shifts. Along the way, Elman shares his views on retention, network effects, product-market fit, and the opportunities he believes remain underexplored in consumer technology. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: The Big Ideas 00:56 - Welcome: Meet Josh Elman 01:50 - When Technology Stopped Being the Underdog 03:35 - Inside Apple: From the App Store to Siri 05:53 - What "Personal Intelligence" Really Unlocks 07:34 - The State of Consumer AI 09:12 - Beyond Productivity: Connection, Agents, and Play 13:34 - Agents vs. Apps: The Death of Apps? 16:46 - Distribution in the AI Era: The Rise of Creators 24:06 - Why Retention Beats Everything 26:38 - Robinhood's Referral Magic 31:16 - Musical.ly to TikTok: When Paid Acquisition Works 35:58 - Consumers Paying & Whether the Labs Win It All 40:33 - Where Startups Beat the Labs: The Human Element 48:45 - Request for Startups & Josh's New Role Resources: Follow Josh Elman on X: https://x.com/joshelman Follow Anish Acharya on X: https://x.com/illscience Stay Updated: If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to like, subscribe, and share with your friends! Find a16z on X: https://twitter.com/a16z Find a16z on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/a16z Listen to the a16z Show on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5bC65RDvs3oxnLyqqvkUYX Listen to the a16z Show on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a16z-podcast/id842818711 Follow our host: https://x.com/eriktorenberg Please note that the content here is for informational purposes only; should NOT be taken as legal, business, tax, or investment advice or be used to evaluate any investment or security; and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. a16z and its affiliates may maintain investments in the companies discussed. For more details please see http://a16z.com/disclosures.
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