How Tucker Carlson Became the Prophet of MAGA

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<p>Tucker Carlson has long been a standard-bearer for far-right views, such as the racist conspiracy theory known as the “great replacement.” He recently did a chatty interview with the white supremacist <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/fault-lines/nick-fuentes-is-not-just-another-alt-right-boogeyman">Nick Fuentes</a>, an admirer of Hitler. And yet, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/11/11/the-tucker-carlson-road-show">Carlson</a> started out as a respected, well-connected, albeit contrarian, political journalist. Jason Zengerle, who recently joined <i>The New Yorker</i> as a staff writer, talks with David Remnick about his new book, “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/808029/hated-by-all-the-right-people-by-jason-zengerle/">Hated by All the Right People: Tucker Carlson and the Unraveling of the Conservative Mind</a>.” They trace how Carlson’s sense of personal resentment toward the establishment grew; how launching his own website radicalized his politics in the years before MAGA; and his political ambitions as a potential heir to Donald Trump. “I think, if Tucker Carlson concludes that J. D. Vance can’t get elected President, maybe he has to do it himself,” Zengerle says. “So much of politics now is just being a media figure and being an entertainer. And Tucker does those things very well. . . . I think our politics are at a place where that really doesn’t seem as outrageous as it would have even just a couple years ago.” </p><p>New episodes of The New Yorker Radio Hour drop every Tuesday and Friday. Join host David Remnick as he discusses the latest in politics, news, and current events in conversation with political leaders, newsmakers, innovators, <i>New Yorker</i> staff writers, authors, actors, and musicians.</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>