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why is the US gov using a ‘cartoonishly hackable’ messaging app?

why is the US gov using a ‘cartoonishly hackable’ messaging app?

kill switch
May 14, 2025 37 min
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<p>About 48 hours after the US National Security Advisor was spotted using a weird cloned version of Signal, someone said they&rsquo;d hacked it. It took them all of 15 minutes. We now know that TeleMessage is &lsquo;cartoonishly hackable,&rsquo; but we still don&rsquo;t know why top White House officials were using it. And what about the investigation to find out if this Israel-based app is bad on accident, or on purpose? I called up my friends Evan McMorris-Santoro of NOTUS and Joseph Cox of 404 Media to get some more context on how bad this might actually be.</p> <p>Here&rsquo;s the links promised in the episode:</p> <p><a href="https://www.notus.org/newsletters">Evan&rsquo;s daily newsletter in NOTUS</a><br><a href="https://www.404media.co/the-signal-clone-the-trump-admin-uses-was-hacked/">Joseph&rsquo;s article in 404 on the Telemessage hack</a><br>And here&rsquo;s Micha Lee&rsquo;s <a href="https://micahflee.com/despite-misleading-marketing-israeli-company-telemessage-used-by-trump-officials-can-access-plaintext-chat-logs/">technical breakdown</a> of Telemessage&rsquo;s security problems</p> <p>Our guests:<br>Evan McMorris-Santoro: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/evanmcs.bsky.social">@evanmcs.bsky.social</a><br>Joseph Cox: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/josephcox.bsky.social">@josephcox.bsky.social</a></p> <p>Got something you&rsquo;re curious about? Hit up @dexdigi on IG or Bluesky. See you on the next one.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

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