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What the AI Shift Means for Your Career with Kelly Monahan

What the AI Shift Means for Your Career with Kelly Monahan

Expert Intelligence with Paul Estes
Jun 18, 2025 31 min
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<p class="whitespace-normal break-words">Kelly Monahan, Managing Director of Upwork's Research Institute and co-author of <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Distributed-Generative-Human-Powered-Leadership/dp/1394276583'>Essential,</a> reveals why 77% of employees feel AI makes work harder, not easier—and what leaders can do about it. In this eye-opening conversation with Paul Estes, Kelly breaks down the real forces behind today's labor market shifts, from inflation and capital costs to the pandemic's lasting impact on customer behavior.</p> <p class="whitespace-normal break-words">From her research on the frontlines of the future of work, Kelly shares practical frameworks for moving beyond resilience to "anti-fragility"—the ability to adapt and evolve when systems face stress and shock. Whether you're a leader trying to implement AI effectively or a professional wondering how to stay relevant, this conversation offers actionable insights on navigating our rapidly changing work landscape while keeping human creativity and relationships central.</p> <p class="whitespace-normal break-words">You'll Learn:</p> <ul class="[&amp;:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&amp;:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc space-y-1.5 pl-7"> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">Why the AI productivity paradox is happening and how to overcome it</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">The difference between AI as a tool versus AI as a teammate, and what it means for your workflow</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">How to move from fragile to anti-fragile thinking when facing career disruption</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">Why skills are becoming more valuable than degrees and how to credential them effectively</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">The "configuration mindset" that separates AI power users from frustrated beginners</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">How to preserve cognitive capacity for creativity in an increasingly automated world</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words">What successful organizational AI strategies look like beyond mere cost-cutting</li> </ul> <p class="whitespace-normal break-words">References Mentioned:</p> <ul class="[&amp;:not(:last-child)_ul]:pb-1 [&amp;:not(:last-child)_ol]:pb-1 list-disc space-y-1.5 pl-7"> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words"><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Distributed-Generative-Human-Powered-Leadership/dp/1394276583'>Essential</a> by Christie Smith and Kelly Monahan</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words"><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Things-That-Disorder-Incerto/dp/0812979680/ref=sr_1_1?crid=240QRR082AFDT&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.C3e4IagEiQHRzgC0W8S0KkqYPCtt93KzrIn260tue4YDaUi5oYnhqsz2y21X0I-rJVZ_5v4UiKkX1vsjCOyUufTyyCDcl_f_IVBZY1DzbB_Gxti7AiYSWP-ak0H25H9Z5TJu3KhmNVSijXuvDpocV6QV7Z7VhNZOA2Jr4L8KR9Ce3OSR7muSIZ6aUPfP3N284sdxY2DtEAnFgRdWaqF7F2HXbBFuXU3wQpGWNS9Br8s.z0vKJrmvNo2DksEo7FJIXzfXQUeHrA-ovcVAM1rNnNw&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Antifragile&amp;qid=1750266607&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=antifragil%2Cstripbooks%2C161&amp;sr=1-1'>Antifragile</a> by Nassim Nicholas Taleb</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words"><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Black-Swan-Improbable-Robustness-Fragility/dp/081297381X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=YCOQHUET1HFC&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ROcwTqpLNFvPrfdMSYUVrG-cbovn0MMYkmZAVcwJoCsg60CmpRmW-TROuuYCzuQ_9cnYDQaqJugkdpRP8fnL3DBL3v6jcYn9p0hFUNaDC8lwFplOCk0bIuManUW7dhY2BMDkzqY6nX58ouH1yHF7YVAzWXyTpwDWLlIj8U4C-iyiMki2yW9qcKayw92IvviOJtI5LkxXP8N4UFVhQdhy1tBQ7G40dwiIjd2Y4hSkPAs.VZN_TRS24N0VbXBoLvnNRgpxyUDz4jaby1WhCp2snzU&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=Black+Swan&amp;qid=1750266650&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=blac%2Cstripbooks%2C634&amp;sr=1-1'>The Black Swan</a> by Nassim Nicholas Taleb</li> <li class="whitespace-normal break-words"><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1J71T0NMAZMHP&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ceqZU8DyU2py75144OBkfzZBgYTQFMLfFPFekT2gV1YnoAggRIblFKh8WT7NC_A77Wd7IJvsJsAfePuhFDfbTYE3vtjBnTagK1w1hYfnoVtnwYsA07meXynvU_jRPto3WNrmO_DiQR2V2NA6RTN5JNgzlnCe50UDsFp2Se3hz9Z3e6rMpkuF9lmqbbrp0DNRLSu0nBVJejB-d1BkBdtNy2uzf4KTXnUYwgvz9N9KVY8._5Us3oTQJoswZaeET50hrWxNkW9R0M1ueKBGeIQY3FA&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=thinking+fast+and+slow&amp;qid=1750266676&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=Thinking%2Cstripbooks%2C197&amp;sr=1-1'>Thinking, Fast and Slow</a> by Daniel Kahneman</li> </ul> <p class="whitespace-normal break-words">Subscribe to Expert Intelligence so you don't miss future conversations with industry leaders at the forefront of technological transformation. Each episode brings you practical insights to navigate our rapidly evolving digital landscape.</p> <p class="whitespace-pre-wrap break-words">Producer: David Grabowski Theme Music: Aleksey Chistilin</p>

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