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Talking Dateline: The Thing About Helen & Olga

Talking Dateline: The Thing About Helen & Olga

Dateline NBC
Feb 11, 2026 23 min
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<p>Lester Holt talks with Keith Morrison about his original podcast series “The Thing About Helen & Olga.” A team of seasoned detectives uncover horrifying murder plots in Los Angeles orchestrated by a pair of unlikely suspects: two elderly ladies named Helen Golay and Olga Rutterschmidt. Keith tells Lester who he believes was the mastermind of their devious schemes and plays extra sound from the manager of a mom-and-pop lighting store who had his own run-in with the “girls.” They’re joined by Dateline Senior Producer Susan Leibowitz, who shares a story about why she returned to the church where Helen and Olga volunteered “helping” the homeless long after reporting on the story.</p> <p>Have a question for Talking Dateline? DM us a video to @DatelineNBC or leave a voicemail at (212) 413-5252. Your question may be featured in an upcoming episode.</p> <p>Listen to the series on Apple: <a href="https://apple.co/45XHjoD" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://apple.co/45XHjoD</a></p> <p>Listen on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4vda0EnXDrlzhyYAuQDqXG" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/4vda0EnXDrlzhyYAuQDqXG</a></p> <p> </p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

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