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Rebroadcast: “There is a government cover-up around UFOs. It’s just not the one that you think.”

Rebroadcast: “There is a government cover-up around UFOs. It’s just not the one that you think.”

Apple News In Conversation
Jul 3, 2025 36 min
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<p><em>This is an episode from our archives. Since we published this episode, the </em>Wall Street Journal<em> released a </em><a href="https://apple.news/A3wQu62yETEuzhMtfzntGiQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>report</em></a><em> that the Pentagon purposely spread disinformation about UFOs, at times to protect secret military operations.</em></p> <p>Have we been visited by extraterrestrial life? And how much does the government really know when it comes to UFOs? Garrett Graff&rsquo;s latest book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ufo/id6445638086" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government&rsquo;s Search for Alien Life Here &mdash; and Out There</em></a>, investigates these questions and more. The national-security reporter recently sat down with <em>Apple News In Conversation</em> host Shumita Basu to share his findings.</p>

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