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<p>A real estate investor’s pursuit of cheap land has prompted a lawsuit against a compound in Arkansas that will test whether civil rights laws can stop a whites-only town from existing in America.</p> <p>Today, Debra Kamin, a New York Times investigative reporter, discusses the community and why its members are convinced that in this political climate, no one is going to stop them.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Debra Kamin</strong></a>, an investigative reporter focusing on wealth, power and corruption for The The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: A <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/20/realestate/return-to-the-land-discrimination-lawsuit.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">whites-only community in Arkansas</a> has been sued for discrimination.</p> <p>Photo: Whitten Sabbatini for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>
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