Katherine Gehl + Michael Porter
Design Matters with Debbie Millman About this episode
<p>Debbie talks to Katherine Gehl and Michael Porter about their program for redesigning our politics.</p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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