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He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.

He said yes to an IT job. He ended up enslaved in a scam compound.

Apple News Today
Apr 4, 2026 31 min
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<p>From <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-news-in-conversation/id1577591053?i=1000757582633"><em>Apple News In Conversation</em></a>:&nbsp;Last June, journalist Andy Greenberg received an anonymous email from someone claiming to be trapped inside a scam compound in Southeast Asia. The source, using the pseudonym Red Bull, said he had access to a trove of internal materials exposing the inner workings of the criminal operation &mdash; and that he was willing to risk his life to share them. Greenberg has now published Red Bull&rsquo;s story in <a href="https://apple.news/ALqmq5Xa-RF2PVUggdFzMMA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Wired</em></a>. He joins <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>guest host <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sam-sanders-show/id1771084688" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sam Sanders</a> to discuss what he uncovered about the shadowy world of global scam compounds, and what happened when Red Bull tried to escape.</p>

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