Skip to content
'The Bible is not a policy manual’: Christians reckon with immigration under Trump

'The Bible is not a policy manual’: Christians reckon with immigration under Trump

Up First from NPR
May 3, 2026 24 min
Open in Clue

About this episode

Evangelicals in America are divided over immigration enforcement. So who gets to claim the side of God?<br/><br/>This week on <em>The Sunday Story</em>, NPR’s Brittany Luse sits down with two people who think a lot about the separation of church and state: NPR’s religion correspondent, Jason DeRose, and the Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero, president and founder of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition. DeRose and Salguero unpack the rhetoric of conservative white Evangelicals and discuss what happens when the government uses scripture to justify policy. How does the Christian tenet of “welcoming the stranger” come to bear on current debates about U.S. immigration enforcement and war?<br/><br/><em>This conversation was originally published as an episode of NPR’s </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510317/its-been-a-minute"target="_blank" ><em>It’s Been A Minute</em></a><em> podcast: “Christians are having a Trump-sized reckoning.”</em><br/><br/>See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.<br/><br/><a href="https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy">NPR Privacy Policy</a>

Listen to this episode in English to learn English

Podcast episodes are one of the highest-density ways to absorb English at native pace. 'The Bible is not a policy manual’: Christians reckon with immigration under Trump from Up First from NPR gives you natural dialogue, unscripted speech, and vocabulary that actually appears in real conversations.

In the Clue app, every word in the transcript is tappable. Tap an unknown word, see the translation in your language instantly, and keep listening without breaking flow.

Episodes to Learn English

More podcasts in English