#247 – Jamie Metzl: Lab Leak Theory

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<p>Jamie Metzl is an author specializing in topics of genetic engineering, biotechnology, and geopolitics. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:<br /> &#8211; <b>Mizzen+Main</b>: <a href="https://mizzenandmain.com">https://mizzenandmain.com</a> and use code LEX to get $35 off<br /> &#8211; <b>NI</b>: <a href="https://www.ni.com/perspectives">https://www.ni.com/perspectives</a><br /> &#8211; <b>GiveDirectly</b>: <a href="https://givedirectly.org/lex">https://givedirectly.org/lex</a> to get gift matched up to $300<br /> &#8211; <b>Indeed</b>: <a href="https://indeed.com/lex">https://indeed.com/lex</a> to get $75 credit<br /> &#8211; <b>Blinkist</b>: <a href="https://blinkist.com/lex">https://blinkist.com/lex</a> and use code LEX to get 25% off premium</p> <p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br /> Jamie&#8217;s Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl">https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl</a><br /> Jamie&#8217;s Website: <a href="https://jamiemetzl.com/">https://jamiemetzl.com/</a><br /> Jamie&#8217;s lab leak blog post: <a href="https://jamiemetzl.com/origins-of-sars-cov-2/">https://jamiemetzl.com/origins-of-sars-cov-2/</a><br /> Hacking Darwin (book): <a href="https://amzn.to/3lLqLsM">https://amzn.to/3lLqLsM</a></p> <p><b>PODCAST INFO:</b><br /> Podcast website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br /> Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br /> Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br /> RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br /> YouTube Full Episodes: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexfridman">https://youtube.com/lexfridman</a><br /> YouTube Clips: <a href="https://youtube.com/lexclips">https://youtube.com/lexclips</a></p> <p><b>SUPPORT &#38; CONNECT:</b><br /> &#8211; Check out the sponsors above, it&#8217;s the best way to support this podcast<br /> &#8211; Support on Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman">https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lexfridman">https://twitter.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman">https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman">https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman</a><br /> &#8211; Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@lexfridman">https://medium.com/@lexfridman</a></p> <p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br /> Here&#8217;s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time.<br /> (00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br /> (07:44) &#8211; Lab leak<br /> (1:06:18) &#8211; Gain-of-function research<br /> (1:15:49) &#8211; Anthony Fauci<br /> (1:25:31) &#8211; Francis Collins<br /> (1:30:13) &#8211; Joe Rogan, Brett Weinstein, and Sam Harris<br /> (2:00:10) &#8211; Xi Jinping<br /> (2:14:41) &#8211; Patient Zero<br /> (2:27:55) &#8211; WHO<br /> (2:51:45) &#8211; Government transparency<br /> (3:13:45) &#8211; Likelihood of a cover-up<br /> (3:15:34) &#8211; Future of reproduction<br /> (3:51:12) &#8211; Jon Stewart<br /> (3:56:31) &#8211; Joe Rogan and Sanjay Gupta<br /> (4:21:36) &#8211; Ultramarathons<br /> (4:31:38) &#8211; Chocolate<br /> (4:39:51) &#8211; One Shared World<br /> (4:54:54) &#8211; Hope for the future</p>