Don’t hold your breath | Deep Water Ep4

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<p>The CEO of the United States Anti-Doping Agency – and the man who caught Lance Armstrong – has advice for Lydia. It’s not what she’s expecting.</p><br><p>Subscribe to Observer+ on Apple Podcasts and Spotify to binge listen to the entire series on Tuesday 18th November.</p><br><p>To find out more about The Observer:</p><br><p>Subscribe to TheObserver+ on Apple Podcasts for early access and ad-free content</p><p>Head to our website&nbsp;<a href="http://observer.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">observer.co.uk</a>&nbsp;</p><br><p>Reporter - Lydia Gard&nbsp;</p><p>Producer -&nbsp;Gary Marshall.&nbsp;</p><p>Music supervision and sound design - Karla Patella</p><p>Sound design - Rowan Bishop</p><p>Podcast artwork - Lola Williams&nbsp;</p><p>Fact checking - Poppy Bullard, Katie Gunning, Amalie Sortland, Madeleine Parr &amp; Jess Swinburne&nbsp;</p><p>Executive producer - Basia Cummings</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>