208: How to explain why you're taking a step down (convincingly!)
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<p>Stepping <em>down</em> a level on the career ladder can feel strangely just as intimidating as aiming higher. How do you explain why you want a less senior role without sounding like you’re burnt out, unmotivated, or trying to “quit” responsibility?</p><p>Whether you’re shifting from director to individual contributor, prioritising family life, or simply craving work that’s meaningful without the extra leadership load, there <em>is</em> a way to tell this story so employers get it, without making the wrong assumptions about you.</p><p>In this weeks episode, Sarah and Emma explain how to strike the right tone of vulnerability and intention, and how to balance your examples so you don’t accidentally signal that you’re still operating at a senior level. You’ll also hear how to frame what you loved about being an individual contributor, so this move sounds thoughtful, not like you’re stepping backwards.</p><p>🏀 Shoot Your Shot - Shoutout to Xuan who bought us 5 coffees!</p><p>"Hi Emma and Sarah! I just wanted to thank you again. I’ve been listening religiously to your podcast for about 3 years now. I bought you some coffees 2 years ago when you helped me get out of a pretty toxic job, and I’m taking you out for a drink once again! My boyfriend was offered a position in a region we wanted to move to, and I was trying to find a job in the same area to join him. I work in Sustainability, and our job market has taken a serious hit this year, so I was stressed out thinking I would never find anything. You were there every step of the way, seemingly reading my mind and answering the questions I had with every new episode. I was amazed because even when I thought « Well, this episode’s not relevant for me, but I’ll listen to it anyway… », there you were, imparting precious words of wisdom, hope and encouragement. So I’m happy to say, for the second time… I’ve got the job! They even offered a 2k integration bonus - I never knew such a thing existed! Thank you so so much for the work you do, shepherding us lost souls across the treacherous terrain of job searching. I wish you all the best ! Xuan (you can pronounce it like Swan), a super fan from France."</p><p>🎥 Top Interview Tips <a href="https://www.interviewboss.com.au/top-interview-tips" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.interviewboss.com.au/top-interview-tips</a></p><p>🏫 To get step by step help with your interview prep on demand check out our Interview Academy<a href="https://www.interviewboss.com.au/interview-academy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.interviewboss.com.au/interview-academy</a></p><p>☕ Did our podcast help you out? Want to say thank you in coffee form? Shout us a virtual coffee here:<a href="http://www.buymeacoffee.com/interviewboss" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> www.buymeacoffee.com/interviewboss</a></p><p>☎️ To book an interview coaching session with Sarah, go to<a href="http://www.interviewboss.com.au/coaching" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> www.interviewboss.com.au/coaching</a> </p><p>❤️ Follow us on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/interviewboss/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Instagram</a></p><p>📒 Check out our website for free jobseeker resources</p><p><a href="https://www.interviewboss.com.au/resources" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.interviewboss.com.au</a></p>
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