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Josh Shapiro on How Kamala Harris Can Win Pennsylvania

Josh Shapiro on How Kamala Harris Can Win Pennsylvania

The New Yorker Radio Hour
13 set 2024 23 min
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<p>In 2024, all eyes are on Pennsylvania: its nineteen electoral votes make it the largest swing state, and it’s considered a critical battleground for either <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tag/donald-trump">Donald Trump</a> or <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tag/kamala-harris">Kamala Harris</a> to win the White House. For many years, Pennsylvania trended slightly blue, but the state has become deeply purple—with a divided state House and a series of razor-thin margins in general elections. One notable exception to this was the 2022 Pennsylvania governor’s race. The Democrat Josh Shapiro won by almost fifteen points against a Trump-aligned Republican, and his approval ratings in the state remain high. “To win in Pennsylvania, you’re not winning with only Democrats,” Shapiro told David Remnick. “You’ve got to get like-minded Independents and Republicans.” Shapiro was on the shortlist of candidates for Harris’s pick for Vice-President—which may be the cause of attacks from Donald Trump, including one calling him an “overrated Jewish governor.” He spoke with Remnick to talk about Harris’s <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-tim-walz-brings-to-kamala-harriss-campaign-to-beat-donald-trump">choice</a> of Minnesota’s governor, <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/tag/tim-walz">Tim Walz</a>, as her running mate, and what it takes for a Democrat to win Pennsylvania. “We’re a big state, but we’re still a retail state,” Shapiro said, “meaning you got to show up!”</p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

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