Cheryl Heller

Design Matters with Debbie Millman
10 feb 2012 40 min
Cheryl Heller
Apri in Clue

About this episode

<p>In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Cheryl Heller discusses  innovation, her new MFA program at SVA and why the word ‘brand’ is like leather pants.</p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>

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