#479 – Dave Plummer: Programming, Autism, and Old-School Microsoft Stories

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<p>Dave Plummer is a programmer, former Microsoft software engineer (Windows 95, NT, XP), creator of Task Manager, author of two books on autism, and host of the Dave&#8217;s Garage YouTube channel, where he shares stories from his career, insights on software development, and deep dives into technology.<br /> Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep479-sc">https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep479-sc</a><br /> See below for timestamps, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc.</p> <p><b>CONTACT LEX:</b><br /> <b>Feedback</b> &#8211; give feedback to Lex: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/survey">https://lexfridman.com/survey</a><br /> <b>AMA</b> &#8211; submit questions, videos or call-in: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/ama">https://lexfridman.com/ama</a><br /> <b>Hiring</b> &#8211; join our team: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/hiring">https://lexfridman.com/hiring</a><br /> <b>Other</b> &#8211; other ways to get in touch: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/contact">https://lexfridman.com/contact</a></p> <p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br /> Dave&#8217;s X: <a href="https://x.com/davepl1968">https://x.com/davepl1968</a><br /> Dave&#8217;s YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DavesGarage">https://www.youtube.com/@DavesGarage</a><br /> Dave&#8217;s Secondary YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@davepl">https://www.youtube.com/@davepl</a><br /> Dave&#8217;s GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/PlummersSoftwareLLC">https://github.com/PlummersSoftwareLLC</a><br /> Dave&#8217;s Books: <a href="https://amzn.to/41qd5IB">https://amzn.to/41qd5IB</a></p> <p><b>SPONSORS:</b><br /> To support this podcast, check out our sponsors &#38; get discounts:<br /> <b>UPLIFT Desk:</b> Standing desks and office ergonomics.<br /> Go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/s/uplift_desk-ep479-sc">https://upliftdesk.com/lex</a><br /> <b>ZocDoc:</b> App that helps patients find healthcare providers.<br /> Go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/s/zocdoc-ep479-sc">https://zocdoc.com/lex</a><br /> <b>Fin:</b> AI agent for customer service.<br /> Go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/s/fin-ep479-sc">https://fin.ai/lex</a><br /> <b>Allio Capital:</b> AI-powered investment app that uses global macroeconomic trends.<br /> Go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/s/allio_capital-ep479-sc">https://alliocapital.com/</a><br /> <b>Shopify:</b> Sell stuff online.<br /> Go to <a href="https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep479-sc">https://shopify.com/lex</a></p> <p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br /> (00:00) &#8211; Introduction<br /> (01:14) &#8211; Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections<br /> (10:16) &#8211; First computer<br /> (15:54) &#8211; Dropping out of high-school<br /> (23:35) &#8211; Joining Microsoft<br /> (25:47) &#8211; MS-DOS<br /> (28:59) &#8211; Windows 95<br /> (35:46) &#8211; The man behind Windows<br /> (40:42) &#8211; Debugging<br /> (45:59) &#8211; Task Manager<br /> (51:08) &#8211; 3D Pinball: Space Cadet<br /> (56:07) &#8211; Start menu and taskbar<br /> (1:07:06) &#8211; Blue Screen of Death<br /> (1:09:15) &#8211; Best programmers<br /> (1:17:16) &#8211; Scariest time of Dave&#8217;s life<br /> (1:24:44) &#8211; Best Windows version<br /> (1:26:34) &#8211; Slot machines<br /> (1:30:17) &#8211; Autism and ADHD<br /> (1:49:37) &#8211; Fastest programming language<br /> (1:53:42) &#8211; Future of programming</p> <p><b>PODCAST LINKS:</b><br /> &#8211; Podcast Website: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/podcast">https://lexfridman.com/podcast</a><br /> &#8211; Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://apple.co/2lwqZIr">https://apple.co/2lwqZIr</a><br /> &#8211; Spotify: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8">https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8</a><br /> &#8211; RSS: <a href="https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/">https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/</a><br /> &#8211; Podcast Playlist: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4</a><br /> &#8211; Clips Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/lexclips">https://www.youtube.com/lexclips</a></p>